do u think they will abolish selective schools? (1 Viewer)

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Only NSW and VIC is english always factored in the atar calculation

wait u put 2 for eng. So if I actually get a 90 in all the rest of my subjects and flop English I can still get a 85+ATAR? wait I'm confused

 

[its_ace21]

I would love to see a school more focused on STEM, also has anyone else heard of a school called Alpha Omega I heard they have escalators (literally not joking)

yeah i drive past that school often

 

[coolcat6778]

wait u put 2 for eng. So if I actually get a 90 in all the rest of my subjects and flop English I can still get a 85+ATAR? wait I'm confused

its the raw mark so u have to actually get 90/100 in the actual exam

 

[coolcat6778]

actually no, it's not raw mark cause i put it into uac atar calculator which uses hsc marks. Also it's impossible to get below 40 hsc mark in English cause you only need to get like a 20% on the english exam

 

[jane1820]

I would love to see a school more focused on STEM, also has anyone else heard of a school called Alpha Omega I heard they have escalators (literally not joking)

alpha omega is a tutoring place that got transformed into a school but lowkey isnt
they dont have uniform either

 

[gossipgirllll]

i hope so

 

[coolcat6778]

alpha omega is a tutoring place that got transformed into a school but lowkey isnt
they dont have uniform either

that school has no math extension 1 or extension 2 e4s

 

[idkkdi]

jordan baker wrote an article in the sydney morning herald called "Selective school fail: Why NSW has lost control of the beast it created" wherein 2 former education ministers were saying they want selective schools to be abolished. But is this actually realistic? Do u think it will really happen?

theres probably too many selective schools out there but ur gonna need like three for proper outliers.

having said that, i wonder if any private schools lobby for this. im sure they would be very happy with the ability to further increase school fees once selective schools disappear.

i think the policy only really makes complete sense once you eliminate private schools along w selectives. otherwise its directly helping correlate socioeconomic and socioeducational advantage. a concern which im sure our non-public schooled education ministers care deeply about lmao

 

[Shavi Masee]

theres probably too many selective schools out there but ur gonna need like three for proper outliers.

having said that, i wonder if any private schools lobby for this. im sure they would be very happy with the ability to further increase school fees once selective schools disappear.

i think the policy only really makes complete sense once you eliminate private schools along w selectives. otherwise its directly helping correlate socioeconomic and socioeducational advantage. a concern which im sure our non-public schooled education ministers care deeply about lmao

I agree
why do private schools exist?
most of them are religious i'm pretty sure, but is that a reason to have a fees?

 

[loveliw]

I agree
why do private schools exist?
most of them are religious i'm pretty sure, but is that a reason to have a fees?

the higher the fees the "better" it is

 

[20/50=80%]

I do go to a selective school, I transferred from a comprehensive school start of last year. The teachers are mostly better than my previous school, and go into depth and genuinely want to help students improve. For me the worst part of selective school culture is the fact EVERYONE does tutoring, which can make the environment kind of toxic for those who don't get tutoring (me and a few others). It's also the fact that my school places so much value on people doing well in maths, when it isn't even a mandatory subject. Due to this, a lot of students I know who do amazing in Maths are barely passing in English, which is worrying as English is the only mandatory subject that HAS to go towards your HSC. I don't really have an opinion on whether selective schools should be abolished, but I don't think they need to be seen as the only way to be successful.

Also on the topic of Opportunity Classes, I was in one for years 5 and 6, and it did not do ANYTHING to help me better prepare for high school, we barely did any schoolwork those two years, and I know a lot of people who were in that class with me have struggled with the amount of writing you have to do in high school due to the fact we never had the opportunity to practice and improve our writing. So that's my take.

 

[jane1820]

that school has no math extension 1 or extension 2 e4s

Alpha Omega Senior College HSC Results (Honour Roll) | HSCninja

Your ultimate HSC resource. Syllabus and past papers combined, for free.

www.hscninja.com

First in the state for math in 2022

Low-fee private schools rival expensive counterparts in HSC

Numerous lower-fee private schools across NSW had similar or better HSC success rates than schools with fees over $20,000 a year, the Herald has found.

www.smh.com.au

bro pulled info from his ass and said “trust me”

 

[its_ace21]

Alpha Omega Senior College HSC Results (Honour Roll) | HSCninja

Your ultimate HSC resource. Syllabus and past papers combined, for free.

www.hscninja.com

First in the state for math in 2022

Low-fee private schools rival expensive counterparts in HSC

Numerous lower-fee private schools across NSW had similar or better HSC success rates than schools with fees over $20,000 a year, the Herald has found.

www.smh.com.au

bro pulled info from his ass and said “trust me”

can u quote where it said first in the state for math coz i read thru the article but couldnt find it

im pretty sure afc was ranked first

 

[its_ace21]

The state’s top schools for HSC mathematics revealed

Epping Boys High had its highest share of maths students achieving marks above 90 on record, while Abbotsleigh and Meriden were among the top private all-girls schools.

www.smh.com.au

but yeah alpha did get good

 

[Average Boreduser]

Alpha Omega Senior College HSC Results (Honour Roll) | HSCninja

Your ultimate HSC resource. Syllabus and past papers combined, for free.

www.hscninja.com

First in the state for math in 2022

Low-fee private schools rival expensive counterparts in HSC

Numerous lower-fee private schools across NSW had similar or better HSC success rates than schools with fees over $20,000 a year, the Herald has found.

www.smh.com.au

bro pulled info from his ass and said “trust me”

uh... mate idt u realise there's a difference between b6 rate and relative ranking. Alpha omega gets a high b6 rate for ext 1 and 2 bc it shunts the rest of its students into standard and only about a fraction ~8-12 to do the courses. Also, do your research before you make fun of someone for their own comments. The 2022 ext 2 first in state was a student in kings (I know him personally) and the 2022 ext1 first in state was a student from kellyville.

 

[coolcat6778]

uh... mate idt u realise there's a difference between b6 rate and relative ranking. Alpha omega gets a high b6 rate for ext 1 and 2 bc it shunts the rest of its students into standard and only about a fraction ~8-12 to do the courses. Also, do your research before you make fun of someone for their own comments. The 2022 ext 2 first in state was a student in kings (I know him personally) and the 2022 ext1 first in state was a student from kellyville.

We shouldn't be proud of schools that force you to take a retarded lower math class just for the teachers' ego. Fuck them and anyone like them. It's the kids' futures, not the schools. They can try all they want to have band 6 rates as good as a selective, but that's never happening.

 

[jane1820]

can u quote where it said first in the state for math coz i read thru the article but couldnt find it

im pretty sure afc was ranked first

opps it was for english and they’re third state wide

The schools that blitzed HSC English

North Sydney Boys High School’s success in English drove it to the top of the HSC rankings. But it wasn’t the only school to record an astronomical rise in the subject.

www.smh.com.au

uh... mate idt u realise there's a difference between b6 rate and relative ranking. Alpha omega gets a high b6 rate for ext 1 and 2 bc it shunts the rest of its students into standard and only about a fraction ~8-12 to do the courses. Also, do your research before you make fun of someone for their own comments. The 2022 ext 2 first in state was a student in kings (I know him personally) and the 2022 ext1 first in state was a student from kellyville.

bro said ‘that school has no math extension 1 or extension 2 e4s’ and i was proving that they do, it doesnt matter how many do math ext 1/2

i didnt say the person who came first was from that school, i said they had the highest nb of e4s (even if it was apparently for eng and not math i still didnt lie)

 

[coolcat6778]

opps it was for english and they’re third state wide

The schools that blitzed HSC English

North Sydney Boys High School’s success in English drove it to the top of the HSC rankings. But it wasn’t the only school to record an astronomical rise in the subject.

www.smh.com.au

bro said ‘that school has no math extension 1 or extension 2 e4s’ and i was proving that they do, it doesnt matter how many do math ext 1/2

i didnt say the person who came first was from that school, i said they had the highest nb of e4s (even if it was apparently for eng and not math i still didnt lie)

there were only 11 people doing mathematics extension 1 in 2023 according to https://aosc.nsw.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2023-Annual-Report-Draft-V1.0-.pdf . imagine gate keeping an easy hsc subject like its some university level course fucking retards ahaha. Genuinely nobody gives a fuck about what ever this school is and it's 'falsified' 90% e4 rate for extension 1 maths, I didn't even know this school existed. This retarded school is clearly gatekeeping the hsc subject math extension 1 to boost their useless stats at the expense of lowering the atar of student's who could have gotten like an 85 or even 90 in extension 1 but were forced to do only advanced.

 

[coolcat6778]

What are schools especially Alpha Omega Senior College gonna do with a high band 6 rate in extension 1 and 2 maths? Encourage more people to come to do the courses there? Oh wait, they can't even enter the course cause it's gatekept by a bunch of retarded teachers who think it's some uni level course . I genuinely don't see a valid reason in gatekeeping any subject at all, especially since a student may actually need them as a prereq

 

[Eagle Mum]

Whilst I don't really side with removing or maintaining the selective school system, I think what they are trying to fix is a lost cause in a ruck that they put themselves into.

At least they would save $45M, which is what they are paying Janison to administer the annual OC & selective school test for five years. That pool of money could provide so many resources to public schools.